Un plan sencillo para eliminar la pesadilla del IRS
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Re: Un plan sencillo para eliminar la pesadilla del IRS
12 Feb 2019 20:03
The numbers are in...., not to mention the "facts", so out of fashion these days... :
theweek.com/articles/822464/go..._19-article_3-822464
Trying to explain to a friend the "reason" behind our tremendous president's daily dose of "yuge" lies and fibs (we were talking about El Paso, which, in HIS feeble mind, was Gomorrah before a border wall was set in place...) the words from the last verse of the Cuban National Anthem (slightly revised) kept coming to my mind: "...que mentir por la patria es vivir"... I think HE staunchly believes that, as do many (if not all) of his "inconditional" followers.
theweek.com/articles/822464/go..._19-article_3-822464
Trying to explain to a friend the "reason" behind our tremendous president's daily dose of "yuge" lies and fibs (we were talking about El Paso, which, in HIS feeble mind, was Gomorrah before a border wall was set in place...) the words from the last verse of the Cuban National Anthem (slightly revised) kept coming to my mind: "...que mentir por la patria es vivir"... I think HE staunchly believes that, as do many (if not all) of his "inconditional" followers.
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Re: Un plan sencillo para eliminar la pesadilla del IRS
12 Feb 2019 21:42 - 17 Feb 2019 01:20
The article published in The Week, argues that workers were deceived during the full year (2018) by employers who were mislead to withhold much less from their employees' salaries. The article says that "the Trump administration actively pressured Treasury and the IRS to undershoot withholding estimates" and it goes on from the very beginning of that fake journalistic piece to assert that the 2017 law did nothing to boost workers' wages or create jobs. Further down, they use the "if" factor to cover their backs: "If the White House did this ...", meaning that they are not sure but it is good to speculate.
Let us find out about workers' wages:
According to figures available at the Social Security WEB pages ( www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/central.html ) Average Net Compensation rose from $46,119.78 in 2015 and $46,640 in 2016 to $48,251.57 in 2017. Average wages for 2018 are not yet available in the Socical Security site.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics ( www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf ), the Median weekly earnings of all workers (they are using the median in these tables and not the average) increased from $860 to $886. That makes a median salary increase of $1,352 in 2018 over the previous year (2017).
Regarding job creation, even The New York Times, a well known anti-Trump newspaper would not hide their surprise in an article published early last November under the title "US added 250,000 jobs in October; unemployment at 3.7%". This extremely low unemployment rate is among the lowest ever since 1900 and it represents for professional Economists "full employment", because an unemployment rate of less than 3.5% is almost impossible. Of course, for the NY Times the government does not have much to do with these results, but "A swerving stock market, tariffs and weakening growth in other countries", among a lot of other economic whitewash.
Again, The Washington Post, another anti-Trump paper, was forced to report early this January that "The US economy added 312,000 jobs in December".
But let us go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), and we find that jobs creation was almost as high in January 2019, in spite of the usual downturn happening every year after Christmas. In general, according the the BLS, average job creation in 2018 was substantially higher than in 2016 and 2017.
Figures about tax returns are not yet available and it does not matter whether refunds are higher or not this next April if the total tax paid (withholding + returns) is substantially lower for middle and lower income taxpayers than in previous years. If I get a negative surprise, I'll be humble and let readers know.
Nevertheless, the US tax system is still too complicated and has many unfair aspects in spite of the new law making it more accessible to common people. In fact, this debate started in Spanish where I advocated a fiscal system that would get rid of the IRS. On that first post I said:
Let us find out about workers' wages:
According to figures available at the Social Security WEB pages ( www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/central.html ) Average Net Compensation rose from $46,119.78 in 2015 and $46,640 in 2016 to $48,251.57 in 2017. Average wages for 2018 are not yet available in the Socical Security site.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics ( www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf ), the Median weekly earnings of all workers (they are using the median in these tables and not the average) increased from $860 to $886. That makes a median salary increase of $1,352 in 2018 over the previous year (2017).
Regarding job creation, even The New York Times, a well known anti-Trump newspaper would not hide their surprise in an article published early last November under the title "US added 250,000 jobs in October; unemployment at 3.7%". This extremely low unemployment rate is among the lowest ever since 1900 and it represents for professional Economists "full employment", because an unemployment rate of less than 3.5% is almost impossible. Of course, for the NY Times the government does not have much to do with these results, but "A swerving stock market, tariffs and weakening growth in other countries", among a lot of other economic whitewash.
Again, The Washington Post, another anti-Trump paper, was forced to report early this January that "The US economy added 312,000 jobs in December".
But let us go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), and we find that jobs creation was almost as high in January 2019, in spite of the usual downturn happening every year after Christmas. In general, according the the BLS, average job creation in 2018 was substantially higher than in 2016 and 2017.
Figures about tax returns are not yet available and it does not matter whether refunds are higher or not this next April if the total tax paid (withholding + returns) is substantially lower for middle and lower income taxpayers than in previous years. If I get a negative surprise, I'll be humble and let readers know.
Nevertheless, the US tax system is still too complicated and has many unfair aspects in spite of the new law making it more accessible to common people. In fact, this debate started in Spanish where I advocated a fiscal system that would get rid of the IRS. On that first post I said:
Un impuesto sobre el consumo frenaría el consumismo desenfrenado, alentaría el ahorro y sería más justo porque cada quien pagaría impuestos según sus propias decisiones de consumo. Este es un plan que han esgrimido candidatos libertarios en Estados Unidos, el cual es de los pocos proyectos en su programa que vale la pena aplaudir y respaldar por todos los medios al alcance de los ciudadanos norteamericanos.
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11 Apr 2019 17:49
As I anticipated in this debate, a lower middle-class citizen such as myself just paid a lower tax on their income as a result of the important tax reduction approved in 2017 to be applied starting in 2018. In fact, my bracket went down from 15% to 12%, in addition to the standard deduction being more than doubled, from $12,000 to $26,600, which facilitated my tax return, making it much simpler with no need to calculate itemized deductions.
Nevertheless, even if you owe no tax, you will need to file a return if you've had any wage withholding or refundable credits. If your adjusted gross income (line 37 on the 1040) is less than your standard deduction ($26,600 for couples older than 65 and $24,000 for younger couples), the standard deduction will bring your taxable income down to zero and, therefore, no income taxes will be due. If so, people receiving a salary and having taxes withheld from the pay check, will receive a full refund after filing the IRS declaration. That is certainly a blessing to the lower income brackets, in spite of all the negative propaganda circulating for many months since the tax reduction was approved.
In addition, if you are married and filing jointly and you both are under age 65, the income threshold for filing is $19,000. Meaning that the lowest income families do not even have to file a tax return. If you are single, the threshold for not having to file is $9,500.
Those are facts, not propaganda.
Nevertheless, even if you owe no tax, you will need to file a return if you've had any wage withholding or refundable credits. If your adjusted gross income (line 37 on the 1040) is less than your standard deduction ($26,600 for couples older than 65 and $24,000 for younger couples), the standard deduction will bring your taxable income down to zero and, therefore, no income taxes will be due. If so, people receiving a salary and having taxes withheld from the pay check, will receive a full refund after filing the IRS declaration. That is certainly a blessing to the lower income brackets, in spite of all the negative propaganda circulating for many months since the tax reduction was approved.
In addition, if you are married and filing jointly and you both are under age 65, the income threshold for filing is $19,000. Meaning that the lowest income families do not even have to file a tax return. If you are single, the threshold for not having to file is $9,500.
Those are facts, not propaganda.
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Re: Un plan sencillo para eliminar la pesadilla del IRS
31 Oct 2019 15:54
Chupate esta mandarina... :lol:
theweek.com/articles/875234/am..._19-article_1-875234
And "these are facts, not propaganda"...
theweek.com/articles/875234/am..._19-article_1-875234
And "these are facts, not propaganda"...
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01 Nov 2019 18:52 - 01 Nov 2019 19:28
Well, this debate was geared towards the issue of tax cuts in the United States and its beneficial effects on the lower middle class. The link that José Manuel is giving us in the previous post opens an article that does not refer to this issue, but to the slow growth (which is not a recession) that the United States is experiencing at this moment.
The truth is that It includes a graph showing that the United States has been going through a more stable situation since 2012, after the 2008-2011 collapse and recession, than that experienced in previous 10-year periods since 1950.
No consideration at all in that article of reference about the world trade crisis and the fact that the "free market" policies proclaimed by many countries in their dealings with the United States operated virtually one way, while protectionist policies and covert monetary manipulation were practiced the other way.
Therefore, it is a fact that the free market proclaimed by other countries operated in virtually one direction, while protectionist policies and covert monetary manipulation were practiced in the other. However, the country most hurt for these decades-long one way tactics is already significantly reducing its trade deficit, getting more investment in industrial productivity and slowing-down a humonguous debt growth that had been growing since 2008.
President Trump is trying an unpopular foreign trade policy to remedy the serious problem of the immense public debt and the growing foreign debt that threaten to bury the US economy sooner or later if it is not fixed with proper austerity measures and renegotiated trade deals. That does not go well with old friends of convenience in Europe, Mexico and elsewhere or with a deceptive and powerful adversary (if not an enemy) like China. The loss of their privileges in their foreign trade with the United States represents the end of a bonanza that has been promoted for too long by those seeking their own political or financial goals at the expense of previous permissive US governments seldom interested in their country's commercial and financial interests.
At some point during his administration, President Obama voiced his alleged will to "fix NAFTA so it works for American workers". Even the left leaning Economist Joseph Stiglitz argued that: "These are not free trade agreements in any sense of the term," but "they're really advantage-trade agreements ... which Obama says he wants to re-negotiate." However, nothing happened until Trump's recent renegotiation got the NAFTA "advantage-trade agreement" abolished in favor of a more equitable one, despite the strong opposition it found to achieve it, including that of Stiglitz himself.
Considering that world trade is not as free as it should be for the good of all, drastic measures to remedy the situation were and are in order. Free trade is a policy to eliminate discrimination against imports and exports. Buyers and sellers from different economies may voluntarily trade without a government applying tariffs, quotas, subsidies, prohibitions on goods and services, or artificially devalued currencies. The verbal "indictment" from other governments and a large portion of the media of President Trump as a protectionist does not take into account all these irregularities taking place in world trade. Economists generally concur that truly free trade erases inefficiencies and inequalities, rewarding innovation and benefiting everyone with cheaper goods and services. But in order to work, it has to be a two ways avenue.
<More about free trade & protectionism (in Spanish) HERE >
The truth is that It includes a graph showing that the United States has been going through a more stable situation since 2012, after the 2008-2011 collapse and recession, than that experienced in previous 10-year periods since 1950.
No consideration at all in that article of reference about the world trade crisis and the fact that the "free market" policies proclaimed by many countries in their dealings with the United States operated virtually one way, while protectionist policies and covert monetary manipulation were practiced the other way.
Therefore, it is a fact that the free market proclaimed by other countries operated in virtually one direction, while protectionist policies and covert monetary manipulation were practiced in the other. However, the country most hurt for these decades-long one way tactics is already significantly reducing its trade deficit, getting more investment in industrial productivity and slowing-down a humonguous debt growth that had been growing since 2008.
President Trump is trying an unpopular foreign trade policy to remedy the serious problem of the immense public debt and the growing foreign debt that threaten to bury the US economy sooner or later if it is not fixed with proper austerity measures and renegotiated trade deals. That does not go well with old friends of convenience in Europe, Mexico and elsewhere or with a deceptive and powerful adversary (if not an enemy) like China. The loss of their privileges in their foreign trade with the United States represents the end of a bonanza that has been promoted for too long by those seeking their own political or financial goals at the expense of previous permissive US governments seldom interested in their country's commercial and financial interests.
At some point during his administration, President Obama voiced his alleged will to "fix NAFTA so it works for American workers". Even the left leaning Economist Joseph Stiglitz argued that: "These are not free trade agreements in any sense of the term," but "they're really advantage-trade agreements ... which Obama says he wants to re-negotiate." However, nothing happened until Trump's recent renegotiation got the NAFTA "advantage-trade agreement" abolished in favor of a more equitable one, despite the strong opposition it found to achieve it, including that of Stiglitz himself.
Considering that world trade is not as free as it should be for the good of all, drastic measures to remedy the situation were and are in order. Free trade is a policy to eliminate discrimination against imports and exports. Buyers and sellers from different economies may voluntarily trade without a government applying tariffs, quotas, subsidies, prohibitions on goods and services, or artificially devalued currencies. The verbal "indictment" from other governments and a large portion of the media of President Trump as a protectionist does not take into account all these irregularities taking place in world trade. Economists generally concur that truly free trade erases inefficiencies and inequalities, rewarding innovation and benefiting everyone with cheaper goods and services. But in order to work, it has to be a two ways avenue.
<More about free trade & protectionism (in Spanish) HERE >
Last edit: 01 Nov 2019 19:28 by Gerardo E. Martínez-Solanas.
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Re: Un plan sencillo para eliminar la pesadilla del IRS
01 Nov 2019 23:15
Gerardo claims that the link that I posted below opens an article that does not refer to the issue towards which this debate is geared, mainly tax cuts in the United States and their effects on lower income tax payers. He then chooses to center his comment exclusively on “the world trade crisis” –created almost single handedly by our RINO in chief- and bringing up, in the process, even what he calls Obama’s failure to fix NAFTA (???).
I am not an economist, and I certainly do not begrudge anyone who is a practitioner of the dismal science –as seems ever more popular these days from books like “License to be bad”, by Jonathan Aldred, and “The Economists’ Hour”, by Binyamin Appelbaum, both of which I recommend. But my sense is that the article I posted tries to tell us that many of the economic theories and the tools we have developed over the last seven decades or so to increase or at least stabilize economic growth are showing their age, just as many of the politicians vying for our attention in the United States today are. The way I see it, the article reads like an admonition to us all to realize that what we have known as mainstream economic ideas no longer work, and that we need to figure out something to replace those theories and tools, and I quote from the article:
“Moreover, during the long slow decline of American growth, our policymakers have largely been doing all the right things, according to mainstream economics.”
It’s true that the article does not focus on (it does not even mention it) “free trade”, and on the “one way avenue” of unfairness in which it is conducted to the detriment of the United States, which has always been the battle cry of our tremendous president’s unfathomable economic policy wisdom, even before he came into politics.
But the article does mention tax cuts and their results (or lack thereof), I regretfully have to point out as I quote from it again:
“We've spent most of the last few decades rampantly cutting taxes, for one thing. The latest example was the massive tax cut for corporate incomes and business owners that Republicans pushed through in 2017. It was supposed to boost business investment, leading to more jobs and higher wages. But business investment was the worst performing part of Wednesday's growth numbers.”
I guess Gerardo expects the results of our Trade Warrior in Chief’s “drastic” endeavors in paving a two way avenue for our “free trade” will be better than the tax cuts’, at least when it comes to boosting business investment in “America”. Or maybe not… Maybe Gerardo does not see an increase in business investment as having a salutary or beneficial effect on lower income US taxpayers. But the fact is the last “massive tax cuts for corporate incomes and business owners” we had in 2017 was sold to the “American” people as a booster for US business investment…
Everybody is entitled to have his own opinion, and to change it as many times as he wants (although guys like Lindsey Graham have abused that right "bigly"...). But the facts, the facts are sacrosanct… LOL!
BTW, I had decided not to participate in these forums for a prolonged while (a much needed sabbatical, if you wish) but I posted the article I posted in consideration of an e mail I received from Gerardo last week asking me to spend at least five minutes a week commenting in one or another entry, in order to boost the number of readers.
It has taken a bit more than five minutes… But I am back into “sabado sabadete” mode, sorry…
I am not an economist, and I certainly do not begrudge anyone who is a practitioner of the dismal science –as seems ever more popular these days from books like “License to be bad”, by Jonathan Aldred, and “The Economists’ Hour”, by Binyamin Appelbaum, both of which I recommend. But my sense is that the article I posted tries to tell us that many of the economic theories and the tools we have developed over the last seven decades or so to increase or at least stabilize economic growth are showing their age, just as many of the politicians vying for our attention in the United States today are. The way I see it, the article reads like an admonition to us all to realize that what we have known as mainstream economic ideas no longer work, and that we need to figure out something to replace those theories and tools, and I quote from the article:
“Moreover, during the long slow decline of American growth, our policymakers have largely been doing all the right things, according to mainstream economics.”
It’s true that the article does not focus on (it does not even mention it) “free trade”, and on the “one way avenue” of unfairness in which it is conducted to the detriment of the United States, which has always been the battle cry of our tremendous president’s unfathomable economic policy wisdom, even before he came into politics.
But the article does mention tax cuts and their results (or lack thereof), I regretfully have to point out as I quote from it again:
“We've spent most of the last few decades rampantly cutting taxes, for one thing. The latest example was the massive tax cut for corporate incomes and business owners that Republicans pushed through in 2017. It was supposed to boost business investment, leading to more jobs and higher wages. But business investment was the worst performing part of Wednesday's growth numbers.”
I guess Gerardo expects the results of our Trade Warrior in Chief’s “drastic” endeavors in paving a two way avenue for our “free trade” will be better than the tax cuts’, at least when it comes to boosting business investment in “America”. Or maybe not… Maybe Gerardo does not see an increase in business investment as having a salutary or beneficial effect on lower income US taxpayers. But the fact is the last “massive tax cuts for corporate incomes and business owners” we had in 2017 was sold to the “American” people as a booster for US business investment…
Everybody is entitled to have his own opinion, and to change it as many times as he wants (although guys like Lindsey Graham have abused that right "bigly"...). But the facts, the facts are sacrosanct… LOL!
BTW, I had decided not to participate in these forums for a prolonged while (a much needed sabbatical, if you wish) but I posted the article I posted in consideration of an e mail I received from Gerardo last week asking me to spend at least five minutes a week commenting in one or another entry, in order to boost the number of readers.
It has taken a bit more than five minutes… But I am back into “sabado sabadete” mode, sorry…
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