Cuba: A Year Goes By
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Cuba: A Year Goes By
17 Jan 2016 20:21 - 17 Jan 2016 20:22
Everybody who’s somebody has written about what has happened – what has “not” happened” rather- since Cuba and the US announced their willingness to talk to each other as equally sovereign nations after fifty some years of obfuscation.
Let me start by stipulating that I am nobody, but simply a regular Joe (I am not an “intellectual”, I am not an academic, I don’t have “Big Law” behind me nor any economic interest backing me). My opinion is simply that, my opinion, and it is worth no more (but no less) than yours.
On the other hand, I was born in Cuba and have been going to Cuba –which I left with my parents when I was eight years old, in May 1960- since 2002 (a week before Jimmy Carter visited the island, and at the same time Osvaldo Payà was taking his Proyecto Varela to the Cuban Legislature), I grew up in Latin America just as Cubans in the island did, and I am, first and foremost, a Civil Lawyer, like all of my Cuban colleagues are and despite the fact I have been a Florida Bar member for over thirty years.
I wanted to stipulate this to save some of you the time it takes to call me a “communist”, a “traitor”, a “collaborator with tyranny”, and worst (I am ideologically agnostic, by the way): I do feel a lot more comfortable with Cubans in the island (and those who grew up in the island over the past fifty years or so, wherever they may live) than I do with most of my relatives and neighbors who grew up in the US. Idiosyncratically and culturally I am a lot closer to my colleagues in Cuba than I am to my colleagues in the US.
And just to give my “non fans” a little more ammo, Cuba will not (and should not) give anything to US in exchange for the lifting of the embargo. This is an idiotic legal whole we dug ourselves into, and it is up to us to find our way out of it.
Having said all that, I now have a question for you all? Does it make any sense at all to pay heed to the many clairvoyants among us –the crystal ball crowd, those who, for years, have announced Castro’s Final Hour or the Revolution’s imminent demise- when you want to know whether Cuba has changed over the last year (or over the past seven years) when most of these self appointed “experts” who write and talk endlessly on TV have never set foot in the island over the last 15, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years? What can they possibly tell you about what’s going on in Cuba that you cannot find out by going to Cuba yourself, as a former Secretary of Commerce recently suggested we all should do?
These myth maniacs frozen by the Cold War will tell you people in Cuba will not be accessible to you, but that is simply not true: it is a blatant lie that ANYONE who visits Cuba can easily corroborate.
When I visit Havana I rent a room at a private home, I walk around and interact with all kinds of people (I may be under watch, I don’t know and could care less), I frequently take rides on “boteros”, cars that follow a precise route and which you can hop into as long as there is a seat available, and talk to regular Joes like me, who invariably and openly complain about everything. I also try to interact with as many young Cubans working for the government, or in academia, or in my legal profession, as I possibly can. And I do. And I am often invited to speak at conferences where nobody censors me, where I ask as many impertinent questions as I want to, and despite the occasional tense moment, nothing happens.
The same can be said about health care in Cuba, something our local “experts” in Miami frequently criticize. I was in Havana this past December 17th -I was also there a year before, at the time “the new era” was announced- and uncontrolled coughing and non-stopping hiccups took me to the “Clinica Cira Garcia” for a brief visit. I could experience firsthand what Cubans (there were about 15 people before me when I arrived at the “medico de guardia”, the equivalent to one of our hospital’s ERs, most of them locals) “must go through” under similar circumstances. The human warmth and kindness, as well as the professional knowledge of the doctor who saw me, was simply outstanding. And it was evident I was not given any red carpet treatment, but rather that the same warmth and consideration was extended to every one else, Cubans and foreigners. It took me less than thirty minutes to sit down with one of the doctors. Since I decided not to undergo any extensive studies to find what was wrong with me (I was traveling to Miami the next day, a Friday), they gave me a couple of shots that took care, temporarily at least, of my condition.
Since early Saturday morning, already back in Miami, I started receiving calls and e mails from my friends and acquaintances in Cuba who were worried and expected me to undertake a full check up. It was hard for me to explain to them that I would wait till Monday to do that, the earliest I could get a date at my doctor’s office to see his assistant, rather than spend many long hours in one of our hospitals’ Emergency Rooms.
There are plenty of things to complain about in Cuban society -and many Cubans openly complain about them- but what has for years completely shredded the credibility of our deeply frustrated exile community's in its attempts to "inform the world" of what is going on in Cuba is these myth-maniacs proneness to exaggerate matters to the point their tall tales can be easily shot down by anyone who is truly acquainted with Cuban reality.
So do yourself a favor and go see for yourself, and quit relying on other people’s opinions, including mine. This is a great opportunity for both nations we are living thru, but specially for all Cubans. It should not be sacrificed in the altar of the myth maniacs among us.
Let me start by stipulating that I am nobody, but simply a regular Joe (I am not an “intellectual”, I am not an academic, I don’t have “Big Law” behind me nor any economic interest backing me). My opinion is simply that, my opinion, and it is worth no more (but no less) than yours.
On the other hand, I was born in Cuba and have been going to Cuba –which I left with my parents when I was eight years old, in May 1960- since 2002 (a week before Jimmy Carter visited the island, and at the same time Osvaldo Payà was taking his Proyecto Varela to the Cuban Legislature), I grew up in Latin America just as Cubans in the island did, and I am, first and foremost, a Civil Lawyer, like all of my Cuban colleagues are and despite the fact I have been a Florida Bar member for over thirty years.
I wanted to stipulate this to save some of you the time it takes to call me a “communist”, a “traitor”, a “collaborator with tyranny”, and worst (I am ideologically agnostic, by the way): I do feel a lot more comfortable with Cubans in the island (and those who grew up in the island over the past fifty years or so, wherever they may live) than I do with most of my relatives and neighbors who grew up in the US. Idiosyncratically and culturally I am a lot closer to my colleagues in Cuba than I am to my colleagues in the US.
And just to give my “non fans” a little more ammo, Cuba will not (and should not) give anything to US in exchange for the lifting of the embargo. This is an idiotic legal whole we dug ourselves into, and it is up to us to find our way out of it.
Having said all that, I now have a question for you all? Does it make any sense at all to pay heed to the many clairvoyants among us –the crystal ball crowd, those who, for years, have announced Castro’s Final Hour or the Revolution’s imminent demise- when you want to know whether Cuba has changed over the last year (or over the past seven years) when most of these self appointed “experts” who write and talk endlessly on TV have never set foot in the island over the last 15, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years? What can they possibly tell you about what’s going on in Cuba that you cannot find out by going to Cuba yourself, as a former Secretary of Commerce recently suggested we all should do?
These myth maniacs frozen by the Cold War will tell you people in Cuba will not be accessible to you, but that is simply not true: it is a blatant lie that ANYONE who visits Cuba can easily corroborate.
When I visit Havana I rent a room at a private home, I walk around and interact with all kinds of people (I may be under watch, I don’t know and could care less), I frequently take rides on “boteros”, cars that follow a precise route and which you can hop into as long as there is a seat available, and talk to regular Joes like me, who invariably and openly complain about everything. I also try to interact with as many young Cubans working for the government, or in academia, or in my legal profession, as I possibly can. And I do. And I am often invited to speak at conferences where nobody censors me, where I ask as many impertinent questions as I want to, and despite the occasional tense moment, nothing happens.
The same can be said about health care in Cuba, something our local “experts” in Miami frequently criticize. I was in Havana this past December 17th -I was also there a year before, at the time “the new era” was announced- and uncontrolled coughing and non-stopping hiccups took me to the “Clinica Cira Garcia” for a brief visit. I could experience firsthand what Cubans (there were about 15 people before me when I arrived at the “medico de guardia”, the equivalent to one of our hospital’s ERs, most of them locals) “must go through” under similar circumstances. The human warmth and kindness, as well as the professional knowledge of the doctor who saw me, was simply outstanding. And it was evident I was not given any red carpet treatment, but rather that the same warmth and consideration was extended to every one else, Cubans and foreigners. It took me less than thirty minutes to sit down with one of the doctors. Since I decided not to undergo any extensive studies to find what was wrong with me (I was traveling to Miami the next day, a Friday), they gave me a couple of shots that took care, temporarily at least, of my condition.
Since early Saturday morning, already back in Miami, I started receiving calls and e mails from my friends and acquaintances in Cuba who were worried and expected me to undertake a full check up. It was hard for me to explain to them that I would wait till Monday to do that, the earliest I could get a date at my doctor’s office to see his assistant, rather than spend many long hours in one of our hospitals’ Emergency Rooms.
There are plenty of things to complain about in Cuban society -and many Cubans openly complain about them- but what has for years completely shredded the credibility of our deeply frustrated exile community's in its attempts to "inform the world" of what is going on in Cuba is these myth-maniacs proneness to exaggerate matters to the point their tall tales can be easily shot down by anyone who is truly acquainted with Cuban reality.
So do yourself a favor and go see for yourself, and quit relying on other people’s opinions, including mine. This is a great opportunity for both nations we are living thru, but specially for all Cubans. It should not be sacrificed in the altar of the myth maniacs among us.
Last edit: 17 Jan 2016 20:22 by José Manuel Palli.
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Re: Cuba: A Year Goes By
18 Jan 2016 16:48 - 18 Jan 2016 17:41
My dear Palli: while I fully agree that in Miami many people can’t see anything positive in Cuba, denying giving any credit to “The System”, it is also very clear that you were born in Cuba but you never suffered the consequences of been living there. Sorry, you are an “American in Havana”. Please do not take offense.
We know that we Cubans are warm-hearted. That applies to everybody: “boteros”, waiters and maids, including, naturally, medical doctors.”Guagüeros” are not included and never will…
We, the Cubans that spent the 60’s, 70” and 80’s in Cuba, went thru many things that you never experienced first hand. And going to a Hospital for us was never going to the Cira Garcia, the Clinic “for foreigners” that was for years under control of the Security of State together with “CIMEQ” and “Hnos. Ameijeira”.
So, Palli, I agree with St. John Paul II call for “Cuba will open to the World and the World will open to Cuba”. I also agree the need for increasing the contacts “people to people” between the two shores, as I hope that changes will come with a “soft landing”. Cuban people deserve a better future, in peace and reconciliation, putting aside hate and revenge. A New Republic, “with all and for the good of all”.
But Palli, I also reckon that you are an American- Cuban, while I am a Cuban-American. It’s a big difference, right?
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We know that we Cubans are warm-hearted. That applies to everybody: “boteros”, waiters and maids, including, naturally, medical doctors.”Guagüeros” are not included and never will…
We, the Cubans that spent the 60’s, 70” and 80’s in Cuba, went thru many things that you never experienced first hand. And going to a Hospital for us was never going to the Cira Garcia, the Clinic “for foreigners” that was for years under control of the Security of State together with “CIMEQ” and “Hnos. Ameijeira”.
So, Palli, I agree with St. John Paul II call for “Cuba will open to the World and the World will open to Cuba”. I also agree the need for increasing the contacts “people to people” between the two shores, as I hope that changes will come with a “soft landing”. Cuban people deserve a better future, in peace and reconciliation, putting aside hate and revenge. A New Republic, “with all and for the good of all”.
But Palli, I also reckon that you are an American- Cuban, while I am a Cuban-American. It’s a big difference, right?
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Last edit: 18 Jan 2016 17:41 by Gerardo E. Martínez-Solanas.
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Re: Cuba: A Year Goes By
18 Jan 2016 22:08
My dear Porto: I am not certain if I may have had the pleasure of meeting you, but even if we have met, I am absolutely certain I do not know you well enough to pigeon hole you into any category of the type you seem to cherish.
I have lived in Miami long enough, though (36 years), to be aware of the traits that characterize some fellow Cubans who also call Miami home, such as their apparent NEED to build walls between themselves and other Cubans they consider lesser, be it on account of the date of their arrival in Miami, their degree of commitment to the Revolution at some time in their lives, or what-have you. But I don’t believe I had ever heard anyone nitpick to the extent of distinguishing between Cuban-Americans and American-Cubans (for the record: I would hope to be balanced enough to be neither).
Another trait that characterizes some Cubans in our area is their eagerness to emphasize the obvious, even argue about it… My posting clearly states that I left Cuba when I was eight years old and did not return (as a visitor) until I turned 50, so of course I did not experience any of the things your self proclaimed category of “We, the Cubans” who spent the first three decades of Castroism in the island went through. SO WHAT?…
I hope you are not among those Cubans who expects Cuba to be ruled in the future by way of a Painocracy… If you were, I am afraid you will be seriously disappointed…
And please, do not take offense! I assure you I did not. On the contrary, I welcome your comments and thank you for them.
I have lived in Miami long enough, though (36 years), to be aware of the traits that characterize some fellow Cubans who also call Miami home, such as their apparent NEED to build walls between themselves and other Cubans they consider lesser, be it on account of the date of their arrival in Miami, their degree of commitment to the Revolution at some time in their lives, or what-have you. But I don’t believe I had ever heard anyone nitpick to the extent of distinguishing between Cuban-Americans and American-Cubans (for the record: I would hope to be balanced enough to be neither).
Another trait that characterizes some Cubans in our area is their eagerness to emphasize the obvious, even argue about it… My posting clearly states that I left Cuba when I was eight years old and did not return (as a visitor) until I turned 50, so of course I did not experience any of the things your self proclaimed category of “We, the Cubans” who spent the first three decades of Castroism in the island went through. SO WHAT?…
I hope you are not among those Cubans who expects Cuba to be ruled in the future by way of a Painocracy… If you were, I am afraid you will be seriously disappointed…
And please, do not take offense! I assure you I did not. On the contrary, I welcome your comments and thank you for them.
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19 Jan 2016 02:03
Dear Pelli: Chances are that we never met personally, but I assume that you read some of my writings in this blog Democracia Participativa. I f I called you “dear Pelli” is due to my Cuban habit of be lack of formalism. Los cubanos usamos el “tu” a los dos minutos de encontrarnos. Got it?
People left Cuba at different times and for different reasons. You know that. The Cuban Exile never was homogenous and never will be. As a matter of fact, the term “exiles” only can be applied now to a handful of people, and we know what it means.
Now, let me tell you: I want a change in Cuba, but I do not want a return to the past, the ancient or the recent. I am also convinced that inclusion and not exclusion is the way. And that means everybody, including those with whom I totally disagree. No revenge.
As Reinaldo Escobar wrote in 14 y medio: “In Cuba there is a repressive apparatus made up of tens of thousands of individuals charged with blocking opponents from expressing themselves or meeting together. If the country democratizes, they will not only lost their jobs and privileges, but they feel they would be victims of revenge”
The things that you mentioned are all true, but that’s not the everyday life for most Cubans in the Island. . I visited many countries and I know the big difference between “living in a country” and “visiting a country”.
“We, the Cubans” who spent the first three decades of Castroism in the island went through. SO WHAT?… , you asked. Let me tell you: that’s the point. You are amazed looking how friendly and solidary are the people in Cuba, while for me that is normal, I lived there. You are discovering a new country, so you are discovering me. And I know the difference between a Cuban than came to America and an American that goes to Cuba.Because nothing substitute personal experience. And I include not only the “first three decades”, but also today.
I hope the next time you could say :”Oh, I remember you now!”
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People left Cuba at different times and for different reasons. You know that. The Cuban Exile never was homogenous and never will be. As a matter of fact, the term “exiles” only can be applied now to a handful of people, and we know what it means.
Now, let me tell you: I want a change in Cuba, but I do not want a return to the past, the ancient or the recent. I am also convinced that inclusion and not exclusion is the way. And that means everybody, including those with whom I totally disagree. No revenge.
As Reinaldo Escobar wrote in 14 y medio: “In Cuba there is a repressive apparatus made up of tens of thousands of individuals charged with blocking opponents from expressing themselves or meeting together. If the country democratizes, they will not only lost their jobs and privileges, but they feel they would be victims of revenge”
The things that you mentioned are all true, but that’s not the everyday life for most Cubans in the Island. . I visited many countries and I know the big difference between “living in a country” and “visiting a country”.
“We, the Cubans” who spent the first three decades of Castroism in the island went through. SO WHAT?… , you asked. Let me tell you: that’s the point. You are amazed looking how friendly and solidary are the people in Cuba, while for me that is normal, I lived there. You are discovering a new country, so you are discovering me. And I know the difference between a Cuban than came to America and an American that goes to Cuba.Because nothing substitute personal experience. And I include not only the “first three decades”, but also today.
I hope the next time you could say :”Oh, I remember you now!”
Thanks.
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Re: Cuba: A Year Goes By
19 Jan 2016 06:57
Dear Porta: you misunderstood me (or "did not get it"). I do not resent your terms of endearment, on the contrary. I simply pointed out that I did not believe I knew enough of you to judge you and pigeon hole you into any category of Cuban or of American. You think you do know me, that's fine. I don't know you, even if "I may remember you now"... Knowledge and remembrance are different things in my book.
In a battle of ideas knowledge is the most powerful of weapons, and the point I tried to make in my little scribblings is precisely that the very few exiles remaining, as per your counting, often confuse "knowledge" with "feelings", and this makes them less effective in conveying their views.
But you may disagree with my point -that is precisely what this Forum is all about, the display of contrasting points of view- as you seem to do with the other point I tried to make: that it is better for ANYONE to visit Cuba than to rely on second hand opinions about Cuba, including mine. You seem to believe these people would be better off visiting you (or your "We Cubans" group): sorry to disappoint you Mr. Porta, but I don't share that belief.
In a battle of ideas knowledge is the most powerful of weapons, and the point I tried to make in my little scribblings is precisely that the very few exiles remaining, as per your counting, often confuse "knowledge" with "feelings", and this makes them less effective in conveying their views.
But you may disagree with my point -that is precisely what this Forum is all about, the display of contrasting points of view- as you seem to do with the other point I tried to make: that it is better for ANYONE to visit Cuba than to rely on second hand opinions about Cuba, including mine. You seem to believe these people would be better off visiting you (or your "We Cubans" group): sorry to disappoint you Mr. Porta, but I don't share that belief.
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19 Jan 2016 18:29 - 19 Jan 2016 18:35
There is a natural tendency -one that is probably overblown among many Spanish speaking people- to take a debate or a simple difference of opinions to a personal level, disqualifying or even discrediting the other on the grounds of perceived or alleged personality traits.
So, let us get to the point (or the points) Pallí and Porto have presented us with all due respect to their personal integrity. I would certainly agree with Pallí in much of what he said. I would also agree with Porto on many of his views. I would say that both are complementary.
The problem with many of these discussions is on Cubans giving an excessive use to three words that kill any possibility of debate: "estás absolutamente equivocado" - "you are absolutely wrong". And that trait keeps all Cubans fighting each other, even among those that claim to be fighting for democracy and freedom.
It is true that people living away from their own countries for many years do no longer know the country they left behind. It is also true that people visiting any country for a few days or a few weeks cannot possibly understand their culture, their problems or even their political reality. Not even people living in the homeland may argue that no one else is qualified to discuss their experience and testimony. We all have a partial knowledge of what is happening in our own countries or in the rest of the world.
Those truths should humble us to the point of accepting discrepancies and differing opinions for the sake of creating the proper conditions for an enriching dialogue. We all have something to learn from "the other", and a debate, a proper dialogue, promotes such opportunities.
I only know about what is happening in Cuba by references. Some more questionable; some more reliable. I can only offer the readers of this debate my own experiences and my knowledge of the experiences of friends and family. For example, I bear witness to the fact that even when I was a professional staff member of the United Nations and had a right to home leave and was given a UN Laissez Passer to return to my homeland for a few weeks, the "entry permit" was never granted to me. I've also tried after retirement and successive applications were futile. The Cuban Government never rejected my applications; they simply put them aside and never answered. One of my friends, have also tried several times to visit his Cuban homeland, and he has often traveled personally to Washington to have his Cuban passport in order for a visit to his country. He has even had cordial interviews with Cuban officials, but to no avail. Another friend used to visit his family in Guantanamo every two or three years since the late 1990's, but in his last trip some seven years ago, he visited his long time friend Oswaldo Payá in Havana just to have a fraternal encounter, but that "breach" of his "permit" as perceived by the Cuban government was reason enough for that government barring him to visit Cuba again in the following years.
That does not mean that things do not change in Cuba. The situation of no country stays static. What is really important is the meaning and reach of those changes. And the fact is that the Cuban totalitarian political structure remains. All decisions are taken at a small center of power. Even decisions that appear to be loosening the government's grip on its people are taken as a calculated risk to maintain and consolidate power.
So, let us get to the point (or the points) Pallí and Porto have presented us with all due respect to their personal integrity. I would certainly agree with Pallí in much of what he said. I would also agree with Porto on many of his views. I would say that both are complementary.
The problem with many of these discussions is on Cubans giving an excessive use to three words that kill any possibility of debate: "estás absolutamente equivocado" - "you are absolutely wrong". And that trait keeps all Cubans fighting each other, even among those that claim to be fighting for democracy and freedom.
It is true that people living away from their own countries for many years do no longer know the country they left behind. It is also true that people visiting any country for a few days or a few weeks cannot possibly understand their culture, their problems or even their political reality. Not even people living in the homeland may argue that no one else is qualified to discuss their experience and testimony. We all have a partial knowledge of what is happening in our own countries or in the rest of the world.
Those truths should humble us to the point of accepting discrepancies and differing opinions for the sake of creating the proper conditions for an enriching dialogue. We all have something to learn from "the other", and a debate, a proper dialogue, promotes such opportunities.
I only know about what is happening in Cuba by references. Some more questionable; some more reliable. I can only offer the readers of this debate my own experiences and my knowledge of the experiences of friends and family. For example, I bear witness to the fact that even when I was a professional staff member of the United Nations and had a right to home leave and was given a UN Laissez Passer to return to my homeland for a few weeks, the "entry permit" was never granted to me. I've also tried after retirement and successive applications were futile. The Cuban Government never rejected my applications; they simply put them aside and never answered. One of my friends, have also tried several times to visit his Cuban homeland, and he has often traveled personally to Washington to have his Cuban passport in order for a visit to his country. He has even had cordial interviews with Cuban officials, but to no avail. Another friend used to visit his family in Guantanamo every two or three years since the late 1990's, but in his last trip some seven years ago, he visited his long time friend Oswaldo Payá in Havana just to have a fraternal encounter, but that "breach" of his "permit" as perceived by the Cuban government was reason enough for that government barring him to visit Cuba again in the following years.
That does not mean that things do not change in Cuba. The situation of no country stays static. What is really important is the meaning and reach of those changes. And the fact is that the Cuban totalitarian political structure remains. All decisions are taken at a small center of power. Even decisions that appear to be loosening the government's grip on its people are taken as a calculated risk to maintain and consolidate power.
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Re: Cuba: A Year Goes By
20 Jan 2016 16:05
Very interesting comment, Gerardo! I believe its "generalities" somewhat exceed the "particularities" of the points I was trying to make through my humble posting, but your contribution to the debate is, as always, very interesting indeed.
But I still do not understand your introductory paragraph about "discrediting" or "disqualifying" one another, nor your presumed ability to "read" certain meanings or feelings in our exchange, or from its "tone", nor your condescension towards "Spanish speaking people"... (???!!!). If you are acting as the moderator, I don't quite understand what it is that you are "moderating". And I, for one, do not feel I need a "tata" to participate in this Forum (and I suspect many of the other "foristas" do not need it either)...
But I still do not understand your introductory paragraph about "discrediting" or "disqualifying" one another, nor your presumed ability to "read" certain meanings or feelings in our exchange, or from its "tone", nor your condescension towards "Spanish speaking people"... (???!!!). If you are acting as the moderator, I don't quite understand what it is that you are "moderating". And I, for one, do not feel I need a "tata" to participate in this Forum (and I suspect many of the other "foristas" do not need it either)...
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20 Jan 2016 17:22
I am not the Moderator of this Forum, but Ernesto Ortiz. This is a free arena for ideas and debates. And I cannot be condescending since I am one among the Spanish speaking people. And, yes, I was refering to personal qualifications that have nothing to do with the topic being discussed. That is my opinion. That's all. I might be wrong. If you believe that Cubans do not abuse using the three magic words to end any possible discussion, that is your opinion. Let readers decide for themselves.
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